s_ninja писал(а):ого, пиратство на пс3 растёт!
Скоро выпустят кастом прошивку) и прогу для выходя в ПСН
http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=14039[11:26:08] <KarlBarl> psgroove didn't come with backup manager, people had to patch it in
[11:26:16] <KarlBarl> so i'm sure there are people who patched the online for themselves arleady
[11:26:18] <igbeserk> yea but psjailbreak did
[11:26:19] <KarlBarl> but not made it public
[11:26:28] <igbeserk> and psgroove was released after psjb
[11:27:16] <+Mathieulh> psgroove needed 4 ASCII strings to be patched for backups
[11:27:31] <+Mathieulh> any noob can do the patch
[11:27:37] <+Mathieulh> getting psn online is harder
[11:27:49] <+Mathieulh> and yes people would abuse it
[11:27:57] <KarlBarl> hi, but some are obviously doing it just not making it public?
[11:28:01] <expiation> it is stupid because sony already has people dedicated to looking into cheating reports they even added a feature in 3.5 to report it more easily and people will still cheat even without jb
[11:28:06] <+Mathieulh> you can already see how xboxlive became trash soon after people got jtags
[11:28:12] <igbeserk> well if they can do it let them do it
[11:28:22] <igbeserk> if you can't either learn or don't bother.
[11:28:31] <+Mathieulh> the only thing that saved it was the fact that MS has proper anti xbox mods detection code
[11:28:33] <+Mathieulh> sony doesn't
[11:28:59] <+Mathieulh> so they can't really detect if your box is modded or not, at least not easily
[11:29:05] <expiation> i bet ms relies on the code instead of investigating every report, sony does investigate all reports
[11:29:06] <RoguishRa> i downloaded 3.50 today
[11:29:08] <igbeserk> like i said you guys make it sound so easy. sony has anti cheating things in place. that doesn't mean they can't slip through the cracks
[11:29:09] <+Mathieulh> and not if you don't run the lame BM id
[11:29:22] <RoguishRa> i really dont see the point of instally 3D functionality right now
[11:29:39] <+Mathieulh> igbeserk trust me I could run a game called "**** sony" and they wouldn't freaking notice
[11:29:40] <RoguishRa> i mean... how many people actually have one of those 3D tvs
[11:29:42] <+Mathieulh> it's THAT lame
[11:29:49] <igbeserk> yea i hear ya
[11:29:51] <RoguishRa> they're like 5k a pop
[11:30:06] <+Mathieulh> so yeah if sony wants hacked boxes out of the psn
[11:30:08] <+Mathieulh> so be it
[11:30:13] <+Mathieulh> if someone figures what to patch
[11:30:14] <igbeserk> i'm saying to them that it's not as easy as they think in terms of sony detecting cheaters who modifycertain files but you just said its super easy
[11:30:16] <+Mathieulh> that's their problem
[11:30:32] <+Mathieulh> it is
[11:30:40] <+Mathieulh> the "hard" part is to get on the psn
[11:30:46] <igbeserk> lol
[11:30:55] <igbeserk> true
[11:31:09] <+Mathieulh> they sure can ban your box if they detect anything
[11:31:19] <+Mathieulh> but problem is they don't have any detection routines on
[11:31:26] <+Mathieulh> they can't even remotely execute code at signup
[11:31:32] <+Mathieulh> like MS does on xbox
[11:31:43] <+Mathieulh> of course they could implement that in some firmware update
[11:31:55] <igbeserk> yea
[11:31:59] <+Mathieulh> it's however trivial for games to detect if they run as a backup on a hacked console
[11:32:02] <expiation> they have people paid to investigate reports though and if a mod sees somebody cheating or gets enough reports that account or console is gonna get banned fast
[11:32:06] <+Mathieulh> all they have to do is to use syscall 36
[11:32:14] <+Mathieulh> if it returns anything proper
[11:32:15] <+Mathieulh> then the box is hacked
[11:32:50] <Fandango> Mathieulh so you are on psn with psgroove?
[11:32:52] <+Mathieulh> why didn't they change the psn auth certs is a question beyound my understanding xD
[11:33:13] <+Mathieulh> Fandango maybe, maybe not
[11:33:34] <+Mathieulh> i avoid using my retail online when it's hacked though
[11:33:55] <chieftexx> but how do you go online on a retail if its hacked
[11:33:56] <+Mathieulh> in fact I barely use my retail box at all
[11:33:59] <igbeserk> hacked or psn, hacked or live. seems to be the options we're given
[11:34:13] <+Mathieulh> chieftexx you patch the psn version checks
[11:34:23] <+Mathieulh> and then you can log on just fine
[11:34:38] <chieftexx> so you're saying you can go online with 3.41 fw
[11:34:39] <KarlBarl> sony should thank you, more people are buying 2nd ps3s...worekd for 360
[11:34:51] <+Mathieulh> lol
[11:35:06] <+Mathieulh> chieftexx in theory yes but I am certainly not helping you with that
[11:35:11] <chieftexx> i love that logic - sony should thank you, now people will buy second consoles and not buy any games!
[11:35:14] <igbeserk> but isn't the money in the games really? and not the hardware?
[11:35:27] <Shrek> in future, everyone will have 2 consoles, one for network one for hacks
[11:35:31] <igbeserk> sony makes a profit on every game sold correct?
[11:35:36] <+Mathieulh> chieftexx people will buy games eventually if they want to play online with them xD
[11:35:37] <chieftexx> Mathieulh: i dont want help, but you are saying thats what you do right?
[11:35:50] <lkk> shrek.. or be like me and have 4.. 2 of each :d
[11:35:56] <Shrek> lol
[11:36:02] <lkk> my parents never taught me the value of money
[11:36:06] <igbeserk> sad
[11:36:07] <+Mathieulh> what I do is to use my debug box and go online with it, it's even easier, no patching required
[11:36:11] <chieftexx> come on please dont try to convince me that this jailbreak is good for sonys profits
[11:36:14] <igbeserk> but if you got money to burn then have fun
[11:36:24] <Shrek> money is over-rated lkk
[11:36:32] <lkk> yeah im thinking the same
[11:36:52] <+Mathieulh> like I said, I am not preventing anyone from finding the values to patch and patch them xD
[11:36:56] <+Mathieulh> you even have peek and poke
