Калифорнийский пользователь PS3 подал коллективный иск на Sony из-за удаления функции «Другая ОС» Иск создается с целью возмещения компанией Sony ущерба от «международное урезание значительного функционала, заявленного в рекламе приставки Sony PlayStation 3». В иске говорится о том, что это урезание функционала нарушает оферту между Sony и её покупателями и является «Несправедливой и вводящей в заблуждение миллионы ничего не подозревающих клиентов практикой»
Компания извиняется, но говорит, что это вполне логичное действие, направленное на борьбу с пиратством.
Sony пытаются спрятаться за EULA, полагая, что нажатие кнопки на экране(чаще всего ребенком) может заменить законы.
Как минимум один пользователь получил возмещение от Amazon, после того как пожаловался на то, что его PS3 больше не делает того, для чего она предназначалась вначале. После этого Sony сказала, что не будет возмещать ритейлерам затраты на компенсации пользователям.
http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ps3/92431/
Sony ответит в суде за удаление функции «Другая ОС»
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- Кто здесь?
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нет зарегистрированных пользователей и 3 ноунейма
Рептил, шанс выиграть дело есть и если это произойдет, то сони придется либо заплатить много денег или вернуть все как было.
ну а адвокаты ихние говно впрочем как и программисты
другую ось можно было сохранить
3: What do you think of Sonys removal of Other OS as a preventative measure, Do you feel it is right to blame ‘hackers’ or ‘pirates’ for its removal?
I believe sony wanted a pretext to remove otheros and found one in Geohot’s hack. I do not believe this is the right approach, it would have paid off to talk with hackers and homebrew developers in the first place and give them compromises, in fact the playstation 3 remained unhacked until sony chose to release ps3 slim systems without the otheros feature in.
4: Assuming you choose to answer the above, Do you have a counter argument for Sonys statements? and do you think Sony could have fixed this without removing the feature?
Yes of course they could have, there are several existing ways to close this exploit effectively without removing the otheros feature, they wanted it removed and used it as another pretext to do so, pretty much like the phony one they used for the slim console pretexting that they would have to implement support for it on the new hardware (while it actually would have worked just fine on it, should they had enabled option to do it in the first place). The otheros feature did cause a few security concerns regarding the fact that you could pretty much cold boot the console and use otheros to dump lv2, this could easily be fixed by ensuring that the selected os option is only applied upon proper shutdown though.
http://www.haxnetwork.net/2010/04/inter ... -homebrew/
ну а адвокаты ихние говно впрочем как и программисты
другую ось можно было сохранить
3: What do you think of Sonys removal of Other OS as a preventative measure, Do you feel it is right to blame ‘hackers’ or ‘pirates’ for its removal?
I believe sony wanted a pretext to remove otheros and found one in Geohot’s hack. I do not believe this is the right approach, it would have paid off to talk with hackers and homebrew developers in the first place and give them compromises, in fact the playstation 3 remained unhacked until sony chose to release ps3 slim systems without the otheros feature in.
4: Assuming you choose to answer the above, Do you have a counter argument for Sonys statements? and do you think Sony could have fixed this without removing the feature?
Yes of course they could have, there are several existing ways to close this exploit effectively without removing the otheros feature, they wanted it removed and used it as another pretext to do so, pretty much like the phony one they used for the slim console pretexting that they would have to implement support for it on the new hardware (while it actually would have worked just fine on it, should they had enabled option to do it in the first place). The otheros feature did cause a few security concerns regarding the fact that you could pretty much cold boot the console and use otheros to dump lv2, this could easily be fixed by ensuring that the selected os option is only applied upon proper shutdown though.
http://www.haxnetwork.net/2010/04/inter ... -homebrew/
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То есть сони признает, что кому то удалось взломать пс3 через linux?110 писал(а):Компания извиняется, но говорит, что это вполне логичное действие, направленное на борьбу с пиратством.
До этого она ведь ее не собиралась убирать.
Игрок сердце Playstation:
Daggerfall,
враньё компании сони
Today Sony's Satoshi Hashimoto, in an interview with Impress Watch, confirmed that Sony will not be removing the OtherOS and Linux functionality in old (non-Slim) PlayStation 3 consoles.
Until now, many feared Sony would remove the functionality from older PS3 systems via PS3 Firmware 3.0 or a future update.
Additionally, he stated that there isn't an issue with the feature leaving a security hole with the system.
To quote Andriasang.com (linked above): "Rest assured, this will not happen. Sony's Satoshi Hashimoto, in an interview with Impress Watch, said that Sony will not be removing the feature, which he refers to as "Other OS functionality."
He also assured readers that there currently isn't a problem with the feature leaving a security hole with the system."
Stay tuned for more PS3 Hacks news. Also be sure to drop by the PS3 Hacks Forum for updates!
Read more: http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Linux/ps3-ot ... z0lWRtwT21
OtherOS Will Not Be Removed From non-Slim PS3 Models
Posted by greg
Following up on this post where it was rumoured OtherOS may possibly be removed in a later firmware update has been debunked by SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment). In a mailing list post from Geoff Levand, PS3-Linux maintainer, he says SCE management has provided this tidbit:
Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the “Install Other OS” feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases.
Well that’s good news. Lets party!
и как им верить после этого?
http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2010/03/01/oth ... s3-models/
враньё компании сони
Today Sony's Satoshi Hashimoto, in an interview with Impress Watch, confirmed that Sony will not be removing the OtherOS and Linux functionality in old (non-Slim) PlayStation 3 consoles.
Until now, many feared Sony would remove the functionality from older PS3 systems via PS3 Firmware 3.0 or a future update.
Additionally, he stated that there isn't an issue with the feature leaving a security hole with the system.
To quote Andriasang.com (linked above): "Rest assured, this will not happen. Sony's Satoshi Hashimoto, in an interview with Impress Watch, said that Sony will not be removing the feature, which he refers to as "Other OS functionality."
He also assured readers that there currently isn't a problem with the feature leaving a security hole with the system."
Stay tuned for more PS3 Hacks news. Also be sure to drop by the PS3 Hacks Forum for updates!
Read more: http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Linux/ps3-ot ... z0lWRtwT21
OtherOS Will Not Be Removed From non-Slim PS3 Models
Posted by greg
Following up on this post where it was rumoured OtherOS may possibly be removed in a later firmware update has been debunked by SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment). In a mailing list post from Geoff Levand, PS3-Linux maintainer, he says SCE management has provided this tidbit:
Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the “Install Other OS” feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases.
Well that’s good news. Lets party!
и как им верить после этого?
http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2010/03/01/oth ... s3-models/
мне вот интересно, почему ящерам до этого больше дела чем сонибоям? Позлорадствовать охота? 
Иногда есть рассвет. В этом рассвете сырный дом. Он не горит, ведь сделан из смолы и асфальта. Съешьте его, если хотите мозговых червей. Они знают, что вы думаете.
